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Our friendly big competitor WeRelate now has links to and apparently from Wikidata. See forum discussion at https://www.werelate.org/w/index.php?title=WeRelate_talk:Watercooler&diff=0&oldid=24070468#Wikidata_-_in_case_you.27re_wondering..._.5B14_August_2017.5D

We should probably do the same. Direct "External links" from Wikipedia articles are possible but rare. Wikidata may provide a better long-term linkage.

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:27, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

We do have Template:Wikidata to link via Wikipedia. I have thought about a process for exporting from Wikidata, but haven't made much progress. Thurstan (talk) 03:35, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
OK, well, our one current use of that (undocumented?) template leads to https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q6253686 - and we see WikiTree and Genealogics already have links from there. A Wikidata link might be of more value than AFN and thus deserving a place in the first section of Form:Person. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 05:41, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
I have had something more ambitious in mind, following Phlox's quest for GIUDs. I propose that we expand the present "AFN" to a "UID" section on the form, covering (at least) AFN, Property:ThePeerage pid, Property:Genealogics pid, Property:VIAF (and all the other values that come with {{Authority control}}). We should add findagrave and wikidata as well. I notice that wikidata will link to wikitree too. The primary wikipedia link could go here too. I would like to also include the name that the linked source uses for the person. Thurstan (talk) 06:23, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
I checked Wikidata, and there is a Notability policy, so its coverage will be much smaller than Ancestral file if it only includes "Famous people". Thurstan (talk) 19:59, August 15, 2017 (UTC)
Notability at Wikidata is only that you can show that there is at least one external link, to show that the person actually exists. The links can be to Familypedia, Werelate, Familysearch, Geni or Findagrave. I also add in the url for an obituary, and a copy of obituaries are usually in Familysearch or Findagrave or Geni. Users are discouraged only from adding yourself. Ancestry.com does not have a landing page for individuals, everyone keeps their own copy. If you have an entry in Wikidata you can also add in images to Wikimedia Commons if you have proper copyright permission, family photos have always fallen into the orphaned photos category, a gray area, and usually get deleted at Commons. --Richard Arthur Norton (talk) 14:03, February 8, 2018 (UTC)

Wikimedia genealogy project[]

Related to Wikidata is the slowly-moving project aimed at seeing whether a genealogy site could be created as part of Wikimedia. I've contributed a bit, and have been hinting that Familypedia software might be a valuable part of it. It would be good to see a couple more FP people showing an interest. See https://tools.wmflabs.org/genealogy/wiki/Main_Page -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:58, December 10, 2017 (UTC)

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