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We now have two categories: Nobility and Noble houses (which in turn are grouped by country). Current categorization is messy and inconsistent.

I would think that we categorise things as follows:

  • Individual noble: category surname and, if ruling noble, category title

Variant A (simply family)

  • Surname: category Noble houses of COUNTRY

Variant B (many branches)

  • Surname: category House of XXX
  • House of XXX: category Noble houses of COUNTRY
  • Noble houses of COUNTRY: category nobility

Comments welcome. Rtol 21:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought this was a good idea (we inherited our inconsistency from Wikipedia), but then I realized that there are actually two distinct things being categorized here. Taking the British monarchy of the last few centuries as an example, we have:

(1) Dynasties (family), and so we have:

(2) Titles held by these families, and so we have (inter alia):

Of course, some of these second set lie in categories like Category:Dukes in the Peerage of the United Kingdom, which include "noble" titles which are not "royal" titles. Both sort of category should ultimately come back to some sort of "nobility" category.

Thurstan 03:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

All true. What if the top category Nobility has two main subcategories: Noble houses (the people) and Noble titles (the functions). Rtol 08:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I would be happy with that. Thurstan 08:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Faster categorization[]

{{Info categories}} now picks up "Title" from the info page. So

|Title=Monarchs of the United Kingdom

categorizes this person as a monarch of the UK. We'll probably need up to ten titles. rtol 21:24, 3 May 2009 (UTC)