Editing Forum:Nobility categories

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We now have two categories: Nobility and Noble houses (which in turn are grouped by country). Current categorization is messy and inconsistent.

I would think that we categorise things as follows:
* Individual noble: category surname and, if ruling noble, category title

Variant A (simply family)
* Surname: category Noble houses of COUNTRY
Variant B (many branches)
* Surname: category House of XXX
* House of XXX: category Noble houses of COUNTRY

* Noble houses of COUNTRY: category nobility

Comments welcome. [[User:Rtol|Rtol]] 21:03, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

I thought this was a good idea (we inherited our inconsistency from Wikipedia), but then I realized that there are actually two distinct things being categorized here. Taking the British monarchy of the last few centuries as an example, we have:

(1) Dynasties (family), and so we have:
*[[:Category:House of Hanover]]
*[[:Category:House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha]]
*[[:Category:House of Windsor]]

(2) Titles held by these families, and so we have (''inter alia''):
*[[:Category:Kings of the United Kingdom]]
*[[:Category:Kings of Hanover]]
*[[:Category:Princes of Wales]]
*[[:Category:Dukes of Connaught and Strathearn]]
*[[:Category:Dukes of Kent]]
*[[:Category:Dukes of Gloucester]]

Of course, some of these second set lie in categories like [[:Category:Dukes in the Peerage of the United Kingdom]], which include "noble" titles which are not "royal" titles. Both sort of category should ultimately come back to some sort of "nobility" category.

[[User:Thurstan|Thurstan]] 03:52, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

All true. What if the top category ''Nobility'' has two main subcategories: ''Noble houses'' (the people) and ''Noble titles'' (the functions). [[User:Rtol|Rtol]] 08:10, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

I would be happy with that. [[User:Thurstan|Thurstan]] 08:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
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 I would be happy with that. [[User:Thurstan|Thurstan]] 08:12, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
-==Faster categorization==
-<nowiki>{{Info categories}}</nowiki> now picks up "Title" from the info page. So
-|Title=Monarchs of the United Kingdom
-categorizes this person as a monarch of the UK. We'll probably need up to ten titles. [[User:Rtol|rtol]] 21:24, 3 May 2009 (UTC)