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| + | ::::Yes (with those two being subcats of Category:Emigrants from Switzerland), and in Category:Migrants from Pennsylvania to Ohio. (We are using "Migrants" in a broader sense than Wikipedia does, but families talk about their history that way.) [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC) |
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::To location and from locations assert residency so these two are subcats of |
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| + | ::::'''People from''', not People of. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC) |
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::Should recommended practice be to cat them redundantly with all those locations as well? |
::Should recommended practice be to cat them redundantly with all those locations as well? |
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| + | ::::I don't think we should. Contributors may do so manually, but I see those cats getting [[template:catdiffuse]] and maybe an extra note so as not to contain hundreds of subcats such as Category:Migrants from Pennsylvania to Ohio. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC) |
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::Observation: When we get a couple million folks in the wikia, these cats will become pretty populated. We can probably keep them in surname sorted order, but I wonder how useful they will be with that many entries. Maybe it's no big deal- we can also slice and dice by Time period too. |
::Observation: When we get a couple million folks in the wikia, these cats will become pretty populated. We can probably keep them in surname sorted order, but I wonder how useful they will be with that many entries. Maybe it's no big deal- we can also slice and dice by Time period too. |
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::Whatever- we can make our best guess now. If we need to recat later, the bots can be set to it.[[User:Phlox|<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">''<font color="#0A9DC2">''~''</font>''''' <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph</font><font color="#3DD0F5">l</font><font color="#6EDCF7">o</font><font color="#9EE8FA">x</font>'''</span>]] 03:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC) |
::Whatever- we can make our best guess now. If we need to recat later, the bots can be set to it.[[User:Phlox|<span style="font-family:Trebuchet MS">''<font color="#0A9DC2">''~''</font>''''' <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph</font><font color="#3DD0F5">l</font><font color="#6EDCF7">o</font><font color="#9EE8FA">x</font>'''</span>]] 03:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::Subject to my three notes above, that all looks pretty good. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 12:55, 22 November 2007
Forums: Index > Watercooler > Migrants/immigrants/emigrants - including those who stopped over on the way
(The first comment here was on my talk page but needs an easier more public, separately indexable forum.)
Your preference? emigrants always, or immigrants sometimes. to or in
Ohio German immigrants ->
- 1) Emigrants from Germany to Ohio
-or- (since they may not have actually emigrated to Ohio directly, but may have simply wound up there after some scurrying about for some free land.
- 2) Emigrants from Germany in Ohio
-or-
- 3) Immigrants to Ohio from Germany?
- ~ Phlox 01:21, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- I started wondering about this in July.
- Where people are to be in a category that specifies two ends of a migration movement, I suggest we call it "Migrants from X to Y". Migrants so as to distinguish readily in lists. Origin and destination chronologically.
- People who made a stopover that produced a record about them can be in three categories: A to B, B to C, A to C. If their scurrying may have been recorded in a biography but resulted in no source documentation, I wouldn't give them a category involving the stopover but if someone else did I wouldn't mind. Wikia has the space.
- Robin Patterson 03:23, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- So under the Migrants proposal if Swiss immigrant family comes to the US, appeared in a census in Pennsylvania, but the finally wind up in Amishland in Ohio they would be:
- Category:Migrants from Switzerland to Pennsylvania
- Category:Migrants from Switzerland to Ohio
- So under the Migrants proposal if Swiss immigrant family comes to the US, appeared in a census in Pennsylvania, but the finally wind up in Amishland in Ohio they would be:
- Yes (with those two being subcats of Category:Emigrants from Switzerland), and in Category:Migrants from Pennsylvania to Ohio. (We are using "Migrants" in a broader sense than Wikipedia does, but families talk about their history that way.) Robin Patterson 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- To location and from locations assert residency so these two are subcats of
- Category:People of Switzerland
- Category:People of Pennsylvania
- Category:People of Ohio
- To location and from locations assert residency so these two are subcats of
- People from, not People of. Robin Patterson 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Should recommended practice be to cat them redundantly with all those locations as well?
- I don't think we should. Contributors may do so manually, but I see those cats getting template:catdiffuse and maybe an extra note so as not to contain hundreds of subcats such as Category:Migrants from Pennsylvania to Ohio. Robin Patterson 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Observation: When we get a couple million folks in the wikia, these cats will become pretty populated. We can probably keep them in surname sorted order, but I wonder how useful they will be with that many entries. Maybe it's no big deal- we can also slice and dice by Time period too.
- Whatever- we can make our best guess now. If we need to recat later, the bots can be set to it.~ Phlox 03:45, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
- Subject to my three notes above, that all looks pretty good. Robin Patterson 12:55, 22 November 2007 (UTC)