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Since a software version update in March 2010 our main person-page form for data entry has been misbehaving with most common browsers except Firefox.
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{{seealso|project:model advanced form}}David Thomas percival 1845-1933
 
   
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In order to add person pages or add substantial amounts of data (as distinct from narrative) to an existing page, people not using Firefox may do one of the following:
Born 8 November 1845 At Sydney New South Wales Australia
 
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#Install Firefox 3. (It's free and respectable. Regrettably, we haven't found how to get things right with Firefox 4.)
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#Do an old-fashioned edit where lots of data will need to be later moved into standard templates for inclusion in our cleverly-designed systems for searching and for display of ancestry and descent tables.
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#'''Use a work-around, in the shape of a copy-and-paste model where you can enter data in pre-ordained spaces''' that will be part of the above-mentioned clever systems without further work - very like what we used to do with [[help:info pages|info pages]].
   
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Try this simple version, taken straight from [[Demo Person]]. (People who have been using their own may feel inspired to add helpful comments, for the benefit of less experienced users. Thanks to [[User:Lanica]] for inspiring me to start this page.) — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 03:51, June 27, 2010 (UTC) - amended — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 04:37, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
Marriage David Thomas Percival Ellen Dixon daughter of William Dixon and Mary Griffin in 1872 at Binalong New South Wales Australia
 
   
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:Note that you can save time by copying the filled templates from a sibling, parent, or child. [[User:Rtol|rtol]] 05:20, June 27, 2010 (UTC) --- <small>unless the new person will use several more fields. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 14:26, June 29, 2010 (UTC)</small>
Marriage: David Thomas Percival was married to Jane Armstrong. Daughter of William Armstrong and Mary Edgerton 1868 at Yass New South Wales Australia
 
   
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:You can copy any whole line from below into an '''existing page''' when you want to add more data. The order of lines is not important as long as they are all within the right template (i.e. the things that have curly brackets at start and finish). But keeping to the order listed below will make things as easy as possible for later edits. --- Robin Patterson ([[User talk:Robin Patterson|Talk to me]]) 07:03, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Died 24 December 1933 at Rye Park New South Wales Australia
 
   
Father: William Ambrose Percival
 
   
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::I add a gallery directly to the page instead of a separate tab via the sensor. Is there a Familypedia standard to this or is it personal preference? Which is more recent? Tabs or galleries? [[User:Lanica|Lanica]] 16:58, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
Born 1811
 
   
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:::Ah - gallery versus "Pictures" tab. Galleries have been part of Wikia for most of its existence. The pictures tab is fairly new (and a trifle complex); I wouldn't bother with one unless I had more pictures than an article could comfortably hold. — [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] [[User talk:Robin Patterson|(Talk)]] 14:26, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
Died 20 November 1886
 
   
Mother: Margaret Ann Semple
 
   
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Fairly clean version, which will lose most of its unused parameters as soon as it is published:
Born 15 April 1822
 
   
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Died 22 August 1862
 
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|mother= Mère (-)
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|skills= -
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|familysearch_afn= -
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|joined_with= Spouse1 (-)+Spouse2 (-)
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|ifmarried-g1=true
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|notes= Notes
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|sources= Source(s)
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|contributors= (user names)
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|birth_date-approx=
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|birth_locality= Locality
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|birth_county= Comté
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|birth_nation-subdiv1= Département/"state"/UK "country"
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|wedding1_day=
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|wedding1_date-approx=
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|wedding1_locality= (Locality of first marriage)
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|wedding1_county=
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|wedding1_notes=
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|wedding1_sources= -
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|baptism_month= (number)
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|baptism_day=
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|baptism_date-approx=
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|baptism_county=
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|baptism_nation-subdiv1=
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|baptism_notes=
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|baptism_sources=
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|ifmarried-g2=true
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|wedding2_year=
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|wedding2_month= (number)
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|wedding2_day=
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|wedding2_date-approx=
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|wedding2_county=
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|wedding2_nation-subdiv1=
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|wedding2_notes=
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|wedding2_sources=
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|ifmarried-g3=true
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|remains_year=
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|remains_month= (number)
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|remains_day=
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|remains_date-approx=
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|remains_street=
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|remains_county=
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|remains_nation-subdiv1=
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|remains_nation=
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|remains_places-other=
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|remains_notes=
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|remains_sources=source
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|globals={{get globals}}
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}}
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{{Showfacts biography}}
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{{Showfacts children
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|children-g1= (join names with plus signs, giving each name a birth year if possible)
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|children-g1 sources=sources
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|children-g1 notes=
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|children-g2=
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|children-g2 sources=sources
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|children-g2 notes=
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}}
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{{showfacts awards}}{{showfacts journeys}}{{showfacts residences}}{{showfacts workhistory}}
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{{showfacts military}}{{showfacts religious}}{{showfacts community}}
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Children Marriage 1 to Ellen Dixon
 
   
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The following version has more detail but looks messy if you leave most of the parameters alone:
Isabella Maria Percival Born 1873
 
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{{Showfacts person
Jane Percival Born 1875
 
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|given_name=Prénom
 
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|middle_name=-
Thomas Percival Born 1876 Died 5 Novemner 1959
 
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|surname=Nom de famille
 
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|sex=F
William Percival Born 1878 Died 24 July 1964
 
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|father=Père ()
 
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|mother=Mère ()
Alfred Percival Born 1881 died 4 August 1966
 
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|skills=Job
 
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|familysearch_afn=-
Ellen Percival Born 1883
 
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|joined_with=Spouse1 ()+Spouse2 ()
 
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|ifmarried-g1=true
Miriam Percival Born 1885
 
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|image=---
 
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|short_name=Nom abrégé
Margaret Percival Born 1887
 
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|notes=Informations générales - Note(s)
 
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|sources=Source(s)
Reginald Percival Born1889 Died 13 July 1977
 
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|contributors=Robin Patterson
 
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|birth_year=950
Hazel Percival Born 1891
 
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|birth_month=1
 
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|birth_day=1
Hedley Percival Born 1893 Died 10 June 1975
 
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|birth_date-approx=bef
 
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|birth_street=Rue/Avenue/routière; par exemple: "Napoleon Avenue"
Ivey Maud Percival Born 1896
 
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|birth_locality=Localité de naissance
 
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|birth_county=Comté
Family 2
 
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|birth_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
 
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|birth_nation=Nation
Jane Armstrong born 12 March 1846 Died 25 March 1869
 
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|birth_places-other=Other place, e.g. hospital
 
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|birth_notes=note
[[User:Eridge1|Eridge1]] 11:39, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
 
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|birth_sources=source
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|death_year=999
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|death_month=1
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|death_day=2
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|death_date-approx=c
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|death_street=Napoleon Avenue
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|death_locality=Sea
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|death_county=Comté
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|death_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
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|death_nation=Nation
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|death_places-other=Autre lieu(x)
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|death_causes=Cause(s)
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|death_notes=note
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|death_sources=source
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|wedding1_year=997
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|wedding1_month=9
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|wedding1_day=9
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|wedding1_date-approx=c
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|wedding1_locality=Localité of first marriage
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|wedding1_county=Comté
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|wedding1_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État" (we should have Nation and "Other places" on this form too)
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|wedding1_notes=note
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|wedding1_sources=source
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|baptism_year=991
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|baptism_month=1
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|baptism_day=1
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|baptism_date-approx=c
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|baptism_locality=Localité
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|baptism_county=Comté
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|baptism_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"; form should have "Nation" too
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|baptism_notes=note
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|baptism_sources=source
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|ifmarried-g2=true
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|wedding2_year=998
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|wedding2_month=1
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|wedding2_day=1
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|wedding2_date-approx=aft
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|wedding2_locality=Localité
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|wedding2_county=Comté
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|wedding2_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
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|wedding2_notes=note
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|wedding2_sources=source
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|remains_year=999
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|remains_month=12
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|remains_day=2
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|remains_date-approx=aft
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|remains_street=Rue/Avenue/routière
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|remains_locality=Localité de Reste / enterrement / incinération / les funérailles
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|remains_county=Comté
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|remains_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
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|remains_nation=Nation
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|remains_places-other=Autre lieu(x)
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|remains_notes=note
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|remains_sources=source
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|globals={{get globals}}
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}}
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{{Showfacts biography}}
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{{Showfacts children
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|children-g1=Enfant, Groupe familial-1+kid number 2+baby sis
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|children-g1 sources=source
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|children-g1 notes=
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|children-g2=
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|children-g2 sources=
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|children-g2 notes= note - at present we need to do third family separately without form edit
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}}
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{{showfacts awards}}{{showfacts journeys}}{{showfacts residences}}{{showfacts workhistory}}
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{{showfacts military}}{{showfacts religious}}{{showfacts community}}
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<!-- you can add your own narrative, images, etc, in this space, and move some around later -->
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{{footer}}
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</pre>
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{{seealso|project:model advanced form}}

Revision as of 12:24, 9 May 2011

Forums: Index > Help desk > Data entry without using Form:Person


Since a software version update in March 2010 our main person-page form for data entry has been misbehaving with most common browsers except Firefox.

In order to add person pages or add substantial amounts of data (as distinct from narrative) to an existing page, people not using Firefox may do one of the following:

  1. Install Firefox 3. (It's free and respectable. Regrettably, we haven't found how to get things right with Firefox 4.)
  2. Do an old-fashioned edit where lots of data will need to be later moved into standard templates for inclusion in our cleverly-designed systems for searching and for display of ancestry and descent tables.
  3. Use a work-around, in the shape of a copy-and-paste model where you can enter data in pre-ordained spaces that will be part of the above-mentioned clever systems without further work - very like what we used to do with info pages.

Try this simple version, taken straight from Demo Person. (People who have been using their own may feel inspired to add helpful comments, for the benefit of less experienced users. Thanks to User:Lanica for inspiring me to start this page.) — Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:51, June 27, 2010 (UTC) - amended — Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:37, July 1, 2010 (UTC)

Note that you can save time by copying the filled templates from a sibling, parent, or child. rtol 05:20, June 27, 2010 (UTC) --- unless the new person will use several more fields. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 14:26, June 29, 2010 (UTC)
You can copy any whole line from below into an existing page when you want to add more data. The order of lines is not important as long as they are all within the right template (i.e. the things that have curly brackets at start and finish). But keeping to the order listed below will make things as easy as possible for later edits. --- Robin Patterson (Talk to me) 07:03, March 5, 2011 (UTC)


I add a gallery directly to the page instead of a separate tab via the sensor. Is there a Familypedia standard to this or is it personal preference? Which is more recent? Tabs or galleries? Lanica 16:58, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
Ah - gallery versus "Pictures" tab. Galleries have been part of Wikia for most of its existence. The pictures tab is fairly new (and a trifle complex); I wouldn't bother with one unless I had more pictures than an article could comfortably hold. — Robin Patterson (Talk) 14:26, June 29, 2010 (UTC)


Fairly clean version, which will lose most of its unused parameters as soon as it is published:

 <!-- do not delete any curly brackets or vertical bars -->
{{Showfacts person
|given_name= (compulsory field)
|middle_name= -
|surname= (compulsory field)
|sex=F
|father= Père (-)
|mother= Mère (-)
|skills= -
|familysearch_afn= -
|joined_with= Spouse1 (-)+Spouse2 (-)
|ifmarried-g1=true
|image= ---
|short_name= (compulsory field)
|notes= Notes
|sources= Source(s)
|contributors= (user names)
|birth_year=
|birth_month= (number)
|birth_day=
|birth_date-approx=
|birth_street= 	 
|birth_locality= Locality
|birth_county= Comté
|birth_nation-subdiv1= Département/"state"/UK "country"
|birth_nation= Nation
|birth_places-other= Other place, e.g. hospital or church
|birth_notes=
|birth_sources=-
|death_year=
|death_month= (number)
|death_day=
|death_date-approx=
|death_street=
|death_locality=
|death_county=
|death_nation-subdiv1=
|death_nation=
|death_places-other=
|death_notes=
|death_sources=-
|wedding1_year=
|wedding1_month= (number)
|wedding1_day=
|wedding1_date-approx=
|wedding1_locality= (Locality of first marriage)
|wedding1_county=
|wedding1_nation-subdiv1=
|wedding1_notes=
|wedding1_sources= -
|baptism_year=
|baptism_month= (number)
|baptism_day=
|baptism_date-approx=
|baptism_locality=
|baptism_county=
|baptism_nation-subdiv1=
|baptism_notes=
|baptism_sources=
|ifmarried-g2=true
|wedding2_year=
|wedding2_month= (number)
|wedding2_day=
|wedding2_date-approx=
|wedding2_locality=
|wedding2_county=
|wedding2_nation-subdiv1=
|wedding2_notes=
|wedding2_sources=
|ifmarried-g3=true
|remains_year=
|remains_month= (number)
|remains_day=
|remains_date-approx=
|remains_street=
|remains_locality=
|remains_county=
|remains_nation-subdiv1=
|remains_nation=
|remains_places-other= 	 
|remains_notes=
|remains_sources=source
|globals={{get globals}}
}}
{{Showfacts biography}}
<!-- this space is good for narrative and other images, though the children box may get pushed above it initially -->
{{Showfacts children
|children-g1= (join names with plus signs, giving each name a birth year if possible)
|children-g1 sources=sources
|children-g1 notes= 
|children-g2= 
|children-g2 sources=sources
|children-g2 notes= 
}}
{{showfacts awards}}{{showfacts journeys}}{{showfacts residences}}{{showfacts workhistory}}
{{showfacts military}}{{showfacts religious}}{{showfacts community}}
<!-- you can also add your own narrative, images, etc, in this space, to go below the "children" box, and move some around later -->
{{footer}}


The following version has more detail but looks messy if you leave most of the parameters alone:

 <!-- do not delete any curly brackets or vertical bars -->
{{Showfacts person
|given_name=Prénom
|middle_name=-
|surname=Nom de famille
|sex=F
|father=Père ()
|mother=Mère ()
|skills=Job
|familysearch_afn=-
|joined_with=Spouse1 ()+Spouse2 ()
|ifmarried-g1=true
|image=---
|short_name=Nom abrégé
|notes=Informations générales - Note(s)
|sources=Source(s)
|contributors=Robin Patterson
|birth_year=950
|birth_month=1
|birth_day=1
|birth_date-approx=bef
|birth_street=Rue/Avenue/routière; par exemple: "Napoleon Avenue" 	 
|birth_locality=Localité de naissance
|birth_county=Comté
|birth_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|birth_nation=Nation
|birth_places-other=Other place, e.g. hospital
|birth_notes=note
|birth_sources=source
|death_year=999
|death_month=1
|death_day=2
|death_date-approx=c
|death_street=Napoleon Avenue
|death_locality=Sea
|death_county=Comté
|death_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|death_nation=Nation
|death_places-other=Autre lieu(x)
|death_causes=Cause(s)
|death_notes=note
|death_sources=source
|wedding1_year=997
|wedding1_month=9
|wedding1_day=9
|wedding1_date-approx=c
|wedding1_locality=Localité of first marriage
|wedding1_county=Comté
|wedding1_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État" (we should have Nation and "Other places" on this form too)
|wedding1_notes=note
|wedding1_sources=source
|baptism_year=991
|baptism_month=1
|baptism_day=1
|baptism_date-approx=c
|baptism_locality=Localité
|baptism_county=Comté
|baptism_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"; form should have "Nation" too
|baptism_notes=note
|baptism_sources=source
|ifmarried-g2=true
|wedding2_year=998
|wedding2_month=1
|wedding2_day=1
|wedding2_date-approx=aft
|wedding2_locality=Localité
|wedding2_county=Comté
|wedding2_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|wedding2_notes=note
|wedding2_sources=source
|remains_year=999
|remains_month=12
|remains_day=2
|remains_date-approx=aft
|remains_street=Rue/Avenue/routière
|remains_locality=Localité de Reste / enterrement / incinération / les funérailles
|remains_county=Comté
|remains_nation-subdiv1=Département/"État"
|remains_nation=Nation
|remains_places-other=Autre lieu(x) 	 
|remains_notes=note
|remains_sources=source
|globals={{get globals}}
}}
{{Showfacts biography}}
{{Showfacts children
|children-g1=Enfant, Groupe familial-1+kid number 2+baby sis
|children-g1 sources=source
|children-g1 notes=
|children-g2=
|children-g2 sources=
|children-g2 notes= note - at present we need to do third family separately without form edit
}}
{{showfacts awards}}{{showfacts journeys}}{{showfacts residences}}{{showfacts workhistory}}
{{showfacts military}}{{showfacts religious}}{{showfacts community}}
<!-- you can add your own narrative, images, etc, in this space, and move some around later -->
{{footer}}