Discussion Starteds
I am hoping to generate discussion and consensus about census images. I have read the other forum discussion and am going ahead believing that all census images are public domain and therefore uploadable.
I have added a single page of the US census as an image. 
I have also made it a page of its own, for transcription purposes. 1860 US Census, Minnesota State, Wabasha County, Lake Township, Pg 7.jpg
I suggest we use these pages as a 'sandbox' of sorts to create an example of how we would like a standard census page to look.
I am not an admin, so please don't aim discussion at me. I am a genealogist who would like to use images of the census, but see that there are no standardizations in place yet. I don't want to do a bunch of work , then have to go back and redo everything later.
Questions
- What should census image titles look like?
My opinion - 1860 US Census, Minnesota State, Wabasha County, Lake Township, Pg 7.jpg (Date country, state, county, township, page number) Or similar for other countries. Largest to smallest.
- What should census categories look like?
Here's what I included in my example:
- Category:Census
- Category:Censuses of 1860
- Category:Censuses of the US
- Category:Censuses of Minnesota
- Category:Censuses of Wabasha County, Minnesota
Do we need all of these? Or are you including all the larger cat's if you enter it in the smallest?
I believe it is most useful to list all surnames that are listed on that page.
- Category:Montgomery (surname)
- Category:Johns (surname)
- Category:Noon (surname), etc...
- How details should transcriptions be?
Since the image is available, I think only the header and names are needed. They become searchable then, right?
Finally - Please feel free to discuss what else needs to be added, done, changed...whatever...to make census images most useful to users. Thanks, Lanica 21:58, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
- I would put this in Category:Census of 1860 of Wabasha County MN
- That category should then be in Category:Census of 1860 of Minnesota (which would in Category:Census of 1860 of the USA) and Category:Wabasha County MN
- Adding the surname categories is an excellent idea rtol 05:57, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
- note that the existing category is Category:Wabasha County, Minnesota. Please use "Minnesota" rather than "MN" and "United States" or "United States of America" rather than "USA" in the category names. We also have categories like Category:Census of Iowa 1915. Thurstan 06:52, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
- We also have categories like Category:Census of Iowa 1915. Thurstan - Yeah, that was one of the only other census records currently on the wiki. Was there any discussion about that title? Are we trying to include 'of' in every title? Should my page follow that as an example and be renamed 'Census of the United States of 1860, Minnesota State, Wabasha County, Lake Township' ? Lanica 18:17, March 29, 2010 (UTC)
- Titles should be as short as possible, and should start with the pertinent information: Census of Lake Township MN 1915.
- That page should be in category "Lake Township, Wabasha County, Minnesota", in category "Censuses of Wabasha County" (a subcat of "Censuses of Minnesota"), and in category "Censuses of 1915" (a subcat of "Censuses". rtol 07:30, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
More questions
I intend to upload a lot of census images, so I want to get it right the first time...
- Is the word 'census' preferred usage? "Censuses of Minnesota" vs "Census of Minnesota".
- Where should the page number go? "Census of Lake Township, Wabasha County, Minnesota, 1860, pg7."
- Are we avoiding commas in titles? "Census of Lake Township Wabasha County Minnesota 1860 pg7."
Thanks, Lanica 12:31, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
- There is no standard, so you set it.
- The plural of "census" is "census".
- I would put the page number at the back.
- I would avoid commas.
rtol 18:49, April 2, 2010 (UTC)
Project
What about a Project?
Such as using "Familypedia:U.S. Census", then dividing by pages:
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1930
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1920
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1910
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900
Which indexes each state:
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/New York
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Pennsylvania
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Ohio
Each state census page indexes counties:
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Pennsylvania/Elk
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Pennsylvania/Clearfield
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Pennsylvania/Centre
Each county indexes townships, boroughs, cities, villages, etc.:
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Pennsylvania/Elk/Jay
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Pennsylvania/Elk/St. Marys
- Familypedia:U.S. Census/1900/Pennsylvania/Elk/Fox
On each of those pages, we can have a table that transcibes the data, with a part of the table linking a particular entry to a particular census image. -— AMK152 (t • c) 16:58, May 25, 2010 (UTC)