User talk:AMK152

Bot
I saw your questions about pywikipedia on the general wikia site. I can give you the family and user-config files that will work with genealogy if you like. ~  Ph l o x  00:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 22:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok. Try this.  User:Phlox/pywikipedia setup.   Let me know if you run anything funky.  Please feel free to improve the help on it.  It would be nice to have something that anyone from any Wikia can use.

Mabel?
Response here: Talk:William Albini (1165) ~  Ph l o x   23:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

if template
Wikimedia help for parserFunctions explains how to check for an undefined parameter. You can read it for yourself on meta.wikimedia, but here it is:

= undefined

Or do I misunderstand what this If template is for? If I don't, this template should be nuked as should the one on wikia, because such logic templates are a huge load on the servers. Reduction of server loading is the main reason why the parserFunctions were written, and why such logic templates are now deprecated. ~  Ph l o x  03:01, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Not sure what you mean. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

County pages
Please see http://genealogy.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:County_Pages_Idea#.22Model_County.2C_Statename.22_articles if you haven't already.

I mentioned it on the email list, nearly two days ago, but few people see that, apparently.

Robin Patterson 13:18, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Deaths and births by decade, etc
Please see Template talk:Deathsbydecade before doing lots more work in that area. Robin Patterson 07:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

changing names
The existing article for William's mother was Matilda of Flanders (About 1031-1083). Created in 2005 with that name by John Kenney.

You changed the info page, but didn't move the article so the link would work.

It would be a pain to always have to look up all the places that might have used the old article name, so I have fixed it so it is unnecessary to update Info pages at all. I reverted your fix of the info page to illustrate this.

If you look at William I, King of England (1027-1087)/info, you will see it has the old name, but the article doesn't use this value. Instead it reflects whatever the current article name. So really there is no need to go back and mess with info pages to correct their links because the link values work even if they reflect the former names. If you see a bad article name, just click the link, move the article, go back to the article where you saw the bad name and voila- the article has adapted, and is using the corrected name. That is, if both articles had info pages.

Alt father
Regarding alternate fathers/mothers. I think I understand the motivation for this, but sometimes there is more than one alternate theoretical fathers. For spouse, I just went spouce2, spouce3 etc instead of 2nd spouse 3rd... So for alternate fathers, why not just call them Father2, Father3 and so on? Also make Mother2 correspond to whoever the theory says was married to Father2.

Or have I missed the intention and this is for indicating biological versus adopted father? I have always associated genealogy with biology, but geez- maybe it is perfectly valid to think of it as a kind of tribal linkage that is actually stronger in most respects to biological links. ~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  04:09, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I had seen Template talk:Person and so I made adjustments to include alternatives. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 19:52, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Ok, you think that is the way to go? Maybe it is the simplest way to handle the most common kind of disputed piece of information.  I really never really made up my mind if it was the right way to go about alternates, because some alternative reality scenarios can be quite elaborate.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   21:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

discussion on person naming
I know you are not much for debating stuff, but just to let you know, there is a reason for my minimalist attitudes about how much junk we put in the titles of articles.

It's in the discussion on person article naming conventions Genealogy_talk:Page_names. It's pointless to store data in the names, and make them needlessly long. It's overspecification.

So just to let you know, I will continue to name things deliberately omitting the death date, and I do not regard it as an error. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  21:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * What about for people whose death dates are known and their birth dates are unknown? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 21:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
 * response here Genealogy_talk:Page_names <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  18:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Our Common.css and Common.js do not match Wikipedia's
Ever wonder why Template:Hidden doesn't work, or why WP articles look so wonkey when they are imported here? EG: William I, King of England (1027-1087)/Biography? For example, what you see is the infobox flush left, then text following it. The interwiki thing I made was floating in the middle. If you go to the end of the article the template English Monarchs is in a single narrow column and then there is all this PERSONDATA junk that should be invisible but isn't. It's because our .CSS doesn't match wikipedia's.  To fix: You can revert both of these changes if you don't like them to blank pages and you will be back to what you had before, but there are no additional undesirable features. These are just copies of the wikia and WP common CSS and javascript files. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  03:45, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * 1) Copy User:Phlox/monobook.css to User:AMK152/monobook.css
 * 2) Copy wikia:Mediawiki:Common.js to User:AMK152/monobook.js
 * 3) Go back to William I, King of England (1027-1087)/Biography and you will see the infobox flush right, just like a WP article, and none of the junk mentioned at end.
 * Hmm. It didn't do anything. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 03:52, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Did you do the instructions at the top of the .css page?

Mozilla / Firefox / Safari: hold down Shift while clicking Reload, or press Ctrl-Shift-R (Cmd-Shift-R on Apple Mac); IE: hold Ctrl while clicking Refresh, or press Ctrl-F5; Konqueror:: simply click the Reload button, or press F5? - <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  03:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, it works now. Article looks much better now. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 04:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

OK. I am reverting your "Fix" then. By the way, when you log out, you will see things the way they used to be. For example, now you will see a hide/show button below:

After you log out, you will see no button. When Robin is convinced this is good for the site, everyone will get these features regardless whether they are logged in or not and you should probably nuke your monobook.css and monobook.js files. Regards. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  04:11, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Reminder- robin copied my common.css and .js fixes, so now you need to blank your monobook.css and monobook.js. Otherwise you will be seeing double- for example with the hide buttons on the box above.


 * Also I noted you were curious about WP porting issues with wikitext affected by the lack of htmltidy. I have demo'd a conversion at template:Navbox/core. Compare to WP template of same name, or you can wait for the tutorial I will eventually write for wikia central.  The ancestor tree templates are nasty though- I would recommend you modify the perl scripts that generated these- you can probably hack it for your goal of 10 gens.  Take a look at the author notes on wp- he posted his perl script as I recall.  Regards,  <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   21:39, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Info pages
You were brave to try them out, I am surprized that anyone could understand how they worked. Personally, I think that novices will not want to go to the bother of using them. That is fine. I think your person template is simple enough for anyone to use, and if we encourage its use a bot could simply come by and do the conversion when the article was no longer actively being edited. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  19:16, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

clear template
I think maybe your browser is displaying something different than what I am seeing. When you inserted the clear into the William I article, what it does is insert huge amounts of white space so that there appears to be no more text in the article after "Name variations". You don't see Siblings section unless you scroll down to the end of the interwiki list. Are you seeing that? Maybe I should take a screen shot because I don't think you would regard this as a fix if you saw what I am seeing.

If you see none of this and it all looks ok to you, please let my know your platform and browser. Thanks. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  22:33, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The child list was squeezed so it looked messy. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 22:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * better to put the interwikis at the end than have a half page gap in the article, no? In any case, with any article that has a famous enough subject that it would be on enough non latin text wikipedia's to justify an interwiki box, there would be far more text in the opening section, so this shouldn't be a frequent problem.
 * I bulked up the William I article with some typical sort of text about William's life from a family perspective and although I only got up to Harald, it had already filled the gap.  <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   03:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

fixes
OK. date and place should be separated noW with a br. Take a look- feel free to modify these templates. 2nd spouse is a bug I know the fix on- I will take care of that later. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  00:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * On the Thomas Putnam (1615-1686) article, I have included the  However, it creates an extra break between date and place. Also, if I disregard the   on the info page, it would not make a space between date and place on the showinfo children template. Am I putting the   in the right place? I'm sure I am or does the showinfo children template need to be modified? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am confused. I changed the showinfo person template so it would put the place on a new line from the date. Now, it matches the desired layout you specifed on  So I don't know why you are trying to add another break.  If you can use the person template to mock up what you want it to look like as opposed to what it looks like now, I will fix it to do that.


 * Note- the bug with the extra space after 2nd wife is dead now. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   07:26, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm talking about this. The date and place need to have a break between them also. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Done. Template:Showinfo_children let me know if that's not quite right. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  20:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * One more thing. Can you remove the comma that appears in the show info children template? Thanks. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 21:05, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Birth and Death Bot run
Robin thought it would be nice to have all the birth and death years moved over, and asked PhloxBot to do it. I think it is exactly correct to get all the time and space framework worked out before the crowds arrive. Anyway, he won't stomp anything you have done- if any decade or year category already exists, he won't write over it.

Since you have been heavily involved in the time scheme, I'd like to know if there are any additional things you'd like PhloxBot to do with these cats as it moves these over (eg adding parameters to templates, additional cats).

All it does now is add usedcommons in small text and strip the language interwikis (they would need to be refreshed later anyway when/if we do languages that way.) An example the bot did last night was Category:1001 births‎. If I hear nothing from you, I will proceed on this later in the evening. The bot can always go back and tweak stuff if it didn't get it right the first time. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  16:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I like the naming of these categories (Category:1001 births, etc.) better. Perhaps adding Category:Births by year. Well, basically the categories are generated from the template which can easily add categories. About using it from commons, doesn't exist and there is not page history. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:09, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * A question. Is the bot going to create the categories or is the bot going to create the categories and adjust the categories on the person pages? Such as changing Category:Births in .... to Category:... births? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:20, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The bot is only creating categories, and yeah, I did mess up about them coming from commons. They are of course coming from WP.
 * Subsequent runs can take a stab at auto cating all person pages for births and deaths. If you have thoughts about what the bot should do on that score, please create a subpage on Phlox and link it in from the page listing possible bot runs.  I suspect there will not be anything controversial, but if anyone wants to put in their two cents, they can before all person articles are upgraded with your changes (as carried out by Phloxbot).   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   20:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, so when are you starting the bot run? And how far back are you going? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The bot is only creating categories, and yeah, I did mess up about them coming from commons. They are of course coming from WP.
 * Subsequent runs can take a stab at auto cating all person pages for births and deaths. If you have thoughts about what the bot should do on that score, please create a subpage on Phlox and link it in from the page listing possible bot runs.  I suspect there will not be anything controversial, but if anyone wants to put in their two cents, they can before all person articles are upgraded with your changes (as carried out by Phloxbot).   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   20:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, so when are you starting the bot run? And how far back are you going? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:30, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am doing all year and decade births in the cat tree on WP. I think it is 2,100 or so cat pages, and unless Robin wants some big changes, I will be running it late tonight after the server load goes down.
 * By the way, when telling me stuff about PhloxBot, feel free to be direct in your statements. EG: I don't want it to do X, I want it to do Y.  When folks get wordy, sometimes I can't figure out what folks want, because they are trying to be polite about how they put things.
 * Also, when describing a Bot proposal, it is best to provide a mock up of the transformed page, so I can see precisely what you want done.
 * Oh yeah- I can rip images from commons easily now. If you need any bulk moves (eg all images under commons category x or y, let me know). <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  20:40, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

bot chat
Run login.py. User config is accessed by login and other scripts. Make genealogy your default wiki.

After logging in, you should be able to run category.py. Run it on a small cat- this prompts you for changes so you can abort it.

Getting it to run the first time can be a pain. Maybe you will luck out. Anyway, after you get over that hurdle, it is a lot easier going. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  02:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Is this the right place of what I should follow? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 02:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah- that is where I pointed you yesterday. I thought you saw my response User talk:Phlox  How far did you get?   (By the way, I also left a response to your tree question). <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   23:59, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I thought your change to showinfo children was fine, but I forgot that I actually ran into a problem with a large capacity showinfo children. Anyway, in articles that heavily use info templates, there are so many template calls that it runs into a server limit.  These templates are not optimized- for example- I just exhaustively check every child value rather than stop when I run into an empty one.  Do the same with interwikis.  Easy to fix but I didn't really think that anyone else would be using these so soon.  Hope this is not too much of an inconvenience at this point.  I will get back to this after the wp transfers are through.  I changed a few of the articles that looked like they had 9 or more children to the showinfo children-big template.  Not sure if I caught them all.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   06:57, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, the page says:

Change the root to C: by typing chdir C:\

Type chdir \"name of the folder where python wikipediabot has been downloaded"

So I type:

C:\chdir\Python 2.5

doesn't work

C:\chdir\Python 25

doesn't work

C:\chdir \C:\Documents and Settings\User3\Start Menu\Programs\Python 2.5

doesn't work

C:\chdir \Documents and Settings\User3\Start Menu\Programs\Python 2.5

All it says is that Windows can't find C:\chdir

C:\chdir \

Is there something other than Python that I have to download? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 19:56, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * sorry. Didn't see your query until now.  Don't type the C:\ part.  At the cmd prompt you should see something like:

C:\Documents and Settings\AMK_Spiffy_Computer> Then you type: chdir \python25\pywikipedia


 * <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  20:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Also suggest you enable your mail so I can exchange cmd scripts and logs with you. Doesn't have to be your personal mail- just something I can send attachments to.  You need to do more than just check the box.  You have to go to your mail, open the message sent from genealogy, and click the confirm email link.    <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   20:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It says "The system cannot find the path specified." - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 23:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Where did you install Python? (I assumed C:\Python25) Not so?
 * Where did you install pywikipedia? (I assumed C:\python25\pywikipedia) Not so?
 * <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  01:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * It was right in there. I uninstalled then reinstalled and went to the cmd. When i type it in, i pressed enter and this comes up:

C:\Python25> is this where i type in scripts or files to scripts or soemthing else? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 20:39, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If installed properly, you will be able to run from any directory without mentioning python or the location of python. Eg: if you type

c:\python25\pywikipedia\login.py it will run from any directory. So you can set up your bot scripts wherever you want on your machine. Note however that login is a special case- you should run it once while in the pywikipedia directory. This is because it stores necessary information in the login-data directory so that you don't have to repetitiously login for every run of a script.
 * from the sounds of it, you are getting close to running a bot for the first time. Just be careful you don't mess up a lot of articles.  Be ready to kill the cmd session (closing the window will kill it) if anything starts to go wrong.  Don't worry about it though.  If you mess up real bad, it won't be so awful because I can probably write a script to clean up whatever your bot did wrong.  So be bold.  Good luck.  <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   17:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, so if I have a script file in the Python25 folder, and I enter it as

C:\Python25>Filename.py it will run that script? So the login script is what I use to login the bot? - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 19:37, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the script could be anywhere else on your drive as well, if the installation was performed correctly. So you could run it from

D:\Genealogy\Scripts>Filename.py


 * Login MUST be run in the pywikipedia subdirectory of python25, which is where you hopefully installed it. After you run login the first time, you shouldn't have to run it again.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   22:14, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ping- response on my talk page re multiple spouse w/ children. Skinny: hold on- later tonight, maybe tomorrow.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   19:25, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

Biblical figures

 * This is a tough one because there will probably never be any agreement on the dates until you get into the latter parts of the old testament. I think your approach looks good (son of ...), because there is little dispute over that.
 * Related subject- I'm not sure what you think about biography tab articles, but there are great ones on even obscure biblical figures- plus when the Bot pulls them over we also pick up the images for free. I can pull over any article so long at there is a link to a WP article in the biography section.  What do you think?  <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   23:33, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not really a fan of tabs. That's why I have omitted them from my most of ancestors' pages, and there hasn't been any disputes. The edit info link is easily accessible from the bottom of the showinfo templates, which I prefer over a giant tab. But I wouldn't mind if like for example, Charlemagne's biography be on a tab as it is huge. People like Abraham Elder I believe should have their biography on the actual article. Although it is a lot of info, most people have never heard of him. William the Conqueor's shortened biography on his main article page is another thing, since everyoen is getting soem info and if they want to dig deeper, they can go the the biography article. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 14:41, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Children of multiple spouses

 * This works now. See Henry I, King of England (1068-1135) for an extreme case.  I think I should allow the width to be set so that the tables line up in a more pretty way.
 * Spouse after spouse2 bug was not addressed. Maybe tomorrow.
 * <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  09:38, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't get used to the ugly syntax for showinfo children. I'm going to do some tidying and cosmetic stuff so all the user has to do is specify a single number for the family.  Feel free to propose syntax changes:  A long form (from a wife article) might be:


 * If you want changes or some additional flags, now is the time to voice them. After I forget how the code works, I am reluctant to fiddle with it, because it is somewhat opaque.
 * Lurking bugs: There are probably still some small assumptions that mean it is best to attach children to the Father's info page, but I have written it so that we can associate them with the mother's page as well (eg when father is not known). <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   16:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Cosmetic changes to showinfo children described above are done. Relative width doesn't work for some reason, so we will have to manage with absolute (eg 800px) for widths until I or someone else figures out if CSS has anything to do with the relative problem with tables.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   17:39, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Looks better. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 19:46, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Template:Showinfo person is now substantially optimized to avoid the pre-expansion limit described in the technical documentation of info pages. The extreme example is again Henry I, King of England (1068-1135).  What can we say- the guy was frisky?


 * With rudimentary info pages templates now in place, we are in position with the minimal infrastructure necessary for Automated Gedcom imports. Yay!   I think.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   07:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

OK- I put in my application for sysop.
Genealogy:Requests for adminship. Thanks for considering this. I am asking for your vote. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  02:39, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

ooooops
The parent links aren't showing up on the info pages. Are we just linking them with and  or is this some error? -AMK152(Talk • Contributions 21:43, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Should work now. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   22:29, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I have to drive a friend to her physical therapy and likely will not get to the problem until this evening.  <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   21:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 21:20, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Answer on my talk page. Hope the fix is what you were after. If not, you know where to find me. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   03:32, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * County navigation- just playing with it right now. Any input, let me know.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   22:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

all caps for pseudo surnames?
Maybe all caps to avoid the pollution? Comment? Forum:Royalty- Surname encoding <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   17:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Template: people
Do you mind if I add a "children" category to each marriage? --Richard Arthur Norton I 02:07, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I added a section to list children. However, multiple spouses with multiple children will create organizational issues which I will soon resolve. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 03:28, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

fixed info
you dropped your /noinclude. It's ok now. You may have fixed it, but not seen it because you have to save twice. I have an idea about how to fix that save twice nonsense- maybe in a while. <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x  00:58, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

....BTW, you may be interested in this: John Putnam (disambiguation). The code dynamically searches for all titles with John and Putnam in them, so at any time you can check for duplicates. I intend to make it work with Soundex as well so that it will pick up mispellings. I did ones for Barack Obama and George Bush since they had info pages.


 * If I can maintain my interest, I will build a dynamic query mechanism that will allow queries using this same underlying mechanism. It will only work with articles that have info pages, but I can autogenerate those by bot so no problem there.  No one has to use the format of the main info page article we use- they may not even be aware the info page is there.   <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   01:13, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Cool, it's much better than manualing creating disambiguations. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 03:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, and unlike such static lists, these are always current. When I start dumping in 100s of thousands of individuals, these similar persons pages will have to be sliced up finer by location, but its a minor modification of the selection criteria.  Just a sampling of greater things to come....  <font color="#0A9DC2">~  <font color="#0DC4F2">Ph <font color="#3DD0F5">l <font color="#6EDCF7">o <font color="#9EE8FA">x   06:11, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Surname
Hello. What is the purpose of Category:Surname? Seems to me like an unwanted addition. Robin Patterson 22:57, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In the Category:Surnames category, there are surname related pages, but do not connect to individual people. I created Category:Surname to place pages in which are surname-related pages, but are not an actual last name of someone. Example: Family name is a surname-related place, but it's not liek Smith, Johnson, etc. This is so Category:Surnames is only listing the categories of the surname categories that categorize people. Also, if you look at Special:Most linked to categories, you'll see "Surnames ‎(1,791 members)" which means that there are 1,791 pages in that particular category. If we have only surname pages that categorize people, we can get an idea of how many surnames we have indexed so far and watch it grow. - AMK152 (Talk • Contributions 23:17, 25 November 2007 (UTC)