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Splendid recent responses
Thank you for today's serious work on various fixes. I hadn't wanted to bother you any more but I'm delighted that you bothered. Now I'd better go and try things. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 02:10, December 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I do neglect the gadgets that I don't use so much. Thurstan (talk) 03:12, December 30, 2012 (UTC)

"Final" bit of major user-unfriendliness on Form:Person needing your help: the children input section has the statue of the family group but the rest of it above the top input box says something like this:

'  -1: 	' 	''   :

Then the source and notes boxes appear, with no hint of what they are for. I recall pointing out that the coding differed from the other input sections by having source BEFORE notes, and I think I suggested that all should follow that order.

Now that the forms are working so well again, maybe you'll resume using them!

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 05:21, January 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * More labels lost: I will look for them.
 * I do use the forms at least once with every page I create! Thurstan (talk) 05:28, January 1, 2013 (UTC)


 * Okay, I have removed all the calls to string. What do you think? Thurstan (talk) 06:11, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Children
"Edit child facts" is fine now, with all the labels anyone could want. I'm pleased that it didn't suffer the ostracism that you gave to some partial forms. But unless there's been an improvement in the last few hours the integrated "children" part of Form:Person is still as I reported it. Maybe that's a partial form??


 * It is a different template (only used at page creation?). I have removed its string calls. Thurstan (talk) 21:14, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Do we have room to add spouse names to the display of the children box? Many contributors add that below the table or elsewhere, particularly so as to show likely name-at-death of daughters. User:Selkcerf mentioned that desire recently. Since we agreed to push the child box down to clear the infobox, we don't have the space problem we once had. I'm not suggesting full marriage details. One of our displays lists spouses concatenated, and that should be enough here too.

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:42, January 5, 2013 (UTC)


 * I am not sure if that is what User:Selkcerf was asking for: I thought he was asking for more information to be shown when you still have "red-links".


 * Perhaps you should start a "Forum" on this: I don't think we should change this without agreement from User:rtol and  User:cvs. Thurstan (talk) 21:14, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Stop
Thurston I was in the process of fixing & renaming Hannah Hewitt by removing the "nee" when you jumped in. Please leave me tio correct the problems I have created as I also have to make sure that the links all work. I will be fixing any others that I also created, just be patient.


 * Sorry, I will leave you to it. Thurstan (talk) 02:36, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Vilius
http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:Vilius2001x

Thank you: I had been following the saga, but I was not sure what to do about it. Thurstan (talk) 10:19, January 5, 2013 (UTC)

Children's notes not displaying
Good evening. You've knocked off early. I hope you haven't had to dive into Lake Burley Griffin.

Please have a look at http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Mary_Decker_%281876-%29?action=edit

A couple of lines of "children-g1 notes"; but they don't appear on the display of the page. You're the most recent tinkerer there. Any ideas?

Best wishes -- -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:06, January 8, 2013 (UTC)

You have an error in your model: you must code "children-g1_notes" with a "_", not "children-g1 notes". I don't know if your version used to work, but it hasn't worked for quite a while. Thurstan (talk) 10:16, January 8, 2013 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I mis-spoke: the error was in the template used in Form:Person (as I realized after I went to bed last night). I have fixed it (and tested it). Thurstan (talk) 02:47, January 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * Good work. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:52, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

BDM
OK, as you are the current bdm policeman and chief operative, please:
 * 1) Give the template some documentation
 * 2) Update http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Templates_update?action=edit&section=28

Something I was about to try, until I looked at the template and decided that I couldn't be sure how it worked or what created the tab, was to add a visible message on the main article telling readers that details of births etc are at the "bdm" tab. An alternative could be a more obvious label (e.g. "Births, deaths, etc") for the tab.

Then there's the county level - show county people. Ultimately such pages would be far too big to display, but in the next few years it can remain useful until we can organise the query system so that it's foolproof and suitable for beginners.

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:52, January 9, 2013 (UTC)


 * I'll pass, I don't want to tread on User:Afil's toes more than I have lately, you will have to ask him. The only discussion I have found about this (which you were part of) was at User_talk:Afil and User_talk:Rtol. Thurstan (talk) 04:26, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the links. I'll talk to the other guys and start updating Forum:Templates_update. Then you can somewhere add a bit about how to show the tab! Maybe you can have a good look at the last dozen items on the Watercooler, several of which need input from more than one or two people. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 05:09, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

local govt redirect
You have been a busy bee!

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Local_Government_Areas_in_Australia?limit=500 - they should link to "...government areas in...". I expect many (maybe most) of them are templated and will sort themselves out soon, but I can't be sure. The still earlier page was "...Government Areas of...".

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 09:02, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * Yes, the link is in Infobox Australian place: the templates like that usually link there labels "X" to the "List of X" page. Thurstan (talk) 10:11, January 10, 2013 (UTC)


 * On second thought, I am not so sure. Maybe it is an artifact of the way the template logic works.... Thurstan (talk) 10:22, January 10, 2013 (UTC)

Last week I checked and redirected a few key pages. I think we now have merely a lot of harmless redirects with all of the double redirects eliminated. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:11, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

standard?
http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Raipur,_Chhattisgarh/bdm?s=wldiff&diff=0&oldid=865691

Where can I read a hint that what I wrote is not the standard?

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 03:06, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

In User:Afil's discussion. Thurstan (talk) 03:51, January 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ohio and bdm generally
I've done East Cleveland, Ohio/bdm. You can do more on its person-subject-page if you like.

Andrei's not answering. Please tell me what you use as the standard link from a place page to its bdm.

-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:00, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Template bdm displays the tabs, so you add it to the top of the place page. The template bdm1, which the conents of the "/bdm" subpage, consists of bdm (to show the tabs) followed by showfacts locality to show the people. Thurstan (talk) 00:11, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Super. I can follow that and document it. I might also redirect all of the related templates that used capitals; do you see any risk there? I might then go on to do a bdm2 so as to abbreviate the work for county pages. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:11, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * You can't redirect BDM until you have moved all the "/BDM" pages to "/bdm" pages. Thurstan (talk) 04:15, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Redirected before I saw that reply. Right! Reverted. Now where did I see a friendly bot that could help here? -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:17, January 17, 2013 (UTC)

Categories from WP
Notice that if you copy from Wikipedia, you must change the category names according to all the decisions about category names. Thurstan (talk) 00:11, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Indeed. Better some wrong ones initially than none at all, but corrections are then desirable. Corrections will be easier:
 * when all such decisions are easily found from Help:Copying from Wikipedia
 * with a bot in many cases
 * (|8-) -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:11, January 16, 2013 (UTC)


 * Good work listing some of them so promptly. I knew the first couple but might have otherwise been unaware or forgetful of the next few. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 07:01, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

200,995 edits and some unsourced material
-- Robin Patterson (Talk) 06:59, January 20, 2013 (UTC)
 * 1) Where did you find Felicie's other three children?
 * 2) Did someone neglect to acknowledge the source of the Crooked Corner material or did you write the original?


 * You can find anything on AWT
 * No, I wrote it, based on the GNB entry. I have transferred it to Wikipedia
 * Thurstan (talk) 07:03, January 20, 2013 (UTC)

Page refusing to display tabs
Benjamin_C._Bradlee_(1921) is refusing to show its tabs despite being republished at least three times, alternating with the republishing of its sensor page. Any ideas? -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 06:06, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Mauricie
Totally baffling stripping of some of the start of Infobox settlement for Mauricie. I suppose I could check whether anyone has been fiddling with it. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:06, February 2, 2013 (UTC)