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Royals
I hope you don't get challenged by anyone who reads Mountbatten-Windsor (surname). You're a good bloke. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 00:50, February 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * I carefully read that, and it doesn't mention Charles. Chronologically, it is certainly not his birth surname. I am not really sure what to do about it, but I am heartily sick of people whose only contribution is to farnarkle around with Royalty, and not create anything new. Thurstan (talk) 02:24, February 1, 2018 (UTC)


 * Agreeing in general, but see http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Mountbatten-Windsor_(surname)#Users_of_the_surname Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:59, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

One of your Aussie pages
http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Ellen_Puxty_(1857-1922)?curid=169526&diff=1355909&oldid=483247 shows a few changes and may be worth a look if you've not noticed it - and an updating of sources if poss. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:54, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

Cooperation
Here I am composing a message to Grace-somebody about how she can enhance her new page and you've already improved it! So I can modify my message slightly. I'll give William a tree page but Grace can do the rest. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 02:10, February 16, 2018 (UTC)
 * I have added more of the details from my DB. I would suggest, when a new contributor gets the page-name format correct, you do a "what links here" to find out which red-link they clicked on. Thurstan (talk) 03:27, February 16, 2018 (UTC)

Residence
Mate, there's a simple-looking question right at the bottom of http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Familypedia_talk:Residences_template - your opinion, please! Robin Patterson (Talk) 06:45, April 29, 2018 (UTC)
 * The "where to set" question? I am a bit worried about the complications of Form:Person. I think it would be safer to do it in showfacts residences (analogious to showfacts children). If the "sub-forms" are working again, even better. Thurstan (talk) 06:50, April 29, 2018 (UTC)

Property ... _location and _place
Wondering whether "place" or "location" was a now disused property-ending, I looked at wedding19 and its suffixes of those names. You created them both in 2015, 12 minutes apart. That didn't answer the question. Where should I look next? -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 06:40, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Looking at Property:Birth location I see that it has some of the parts of the birth place as subproperties, so it looks like the "location" property has (in this case) been created as a super-property. I don't know if this is useful. On the other hand, Property:Birth place is a "derivative property" (as its description says). It is set by Showfacts person from the constituent properties of the birth place, and used by templates like Showfacts biography so that they don't have to recompute the property. So unlike the "location" case, the "place" properties are alive and well, being set and used. Thurstan (talk) 07:11, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * In fact, Property:Birth location does have a use: if you query for "Birth location" equal "London" (for example), you will get the pages which have any of the properties "Birth county", "Birth locality", "Birth location", "Birth nation", "Birth nation-subdiv1" set to London. Thurstan (talk) 08:55, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * Whereas querying for "birth place" equals London, you get few pages because you presumably miss pages that have, e.g., London as locality but also something bigger, such as England, which would give birth_place="London, England"? I think I saw a hint of that in the differing descriptions of wedding9_place and wedding9_location (which latter calls itself a category and seems to have one or two too many subproperties, but that's another discussion), both created by you in 2015 but over 6 months apart . "Birth_location" would be useful for catching the people who have a name in the "wrong" field but also for the majority who get it right. Could you modify "_place" so that it did both jobs and made "_location" redundant? -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 09:25, May 2, 2018 (UTC)


 * No, because place has a completely different function, as outlined above. Thurstan (talk) 10:23, May 2, 2018 (UTC)

Baronets
I would like to see input from you at http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Noble/Royal_Titles#Baronets_-_abbreviations and the section that follows it, as you created a Baronet page very recently. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 11:22, May 4, 2018 (UTC)

Minor edits
I wonder whether adding to the creation pages for sensor, tree, and descendants would save you and me when scrutinising Recent Changes (and maybe all of us who diligently check that box) a bit of time? Robin Patterson (Talk) 04:18, May 6, 2018 (UTC)
 * Worth a try: I didn't even know that we could do that! Thurstan (talk) 04:27, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

Sorry - wasting your time again, probably! What I meant was - can we make the "tick" the default for that checkbox (which is already there). Just as the "Watch this page" checkbox is checked by default for those people who add pages they create or edit to their watchlists. (I do.) I should probably search the MW website to see where it's covered and who has the power to change the default. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 06:37, May 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * I know that years ago I contacted central admin to see if we could get the "Rename subpages (up to 100)" box ticked by default on the "rename" function, and they said that they would not change the standard software for a particular wiki, so I don't know what to do about this one. Is there an SMW option? I can't really test it, because I automatically get "minor edit" selected. Thurstan (talk) 07:13, May 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, all your edits are minor by default. (I wonder whether we should invite Andrei to set his that way so that we see fewer East European categories!) OK, think no more of it. I'll see what I can find. (Surprising that "rename subpages" isn't ticked by default - you surely get in a mess most times on any wiki if you don't rename the subpages to match.) -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:18, May 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Progress, maybe. I found this on https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Page_Forms/Defining_forms in the list of the "Field" tag's allowed parameters:
 * "default=default value - Specifies a default value for this field. This default only takes effect when creating a new page, not when editing existing pages. For date-related fields, default=now will set the value to the current date and possibly time. For text fields, default=current user will set the value to the username of the user adding this page. For the checkbox input type, default=yes will check the checkbox by default..."


 * However, the "'standard input' tag" paragraph on that page you cite seems to tell me the "watch" has a parameter 'checked' which does what you want, implying (to me) that the other checkbox does not have such a parameter. I also think that it also implies that these is no "default" parameter either except when it is mentioned for the "free text" input. A quick test seems to confirm it doesn't work. Thurstan (talk) 21:59, May 9, 2018 (UTC)
 * Unless you are really keen, you can leave me to fiddle with it (in the morning or later). It possibly hasn't yet been implemented in our version of SF. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:20, May 7, 2018 (UTC)
 * Here's a coincidence that could give you another laugh at my expense. I just found http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Form:Sensor_page?diff=582409&oldid=475634 -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 11:16, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Keen "anonymous" contributor
You may like to look at http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:104.246.36.103 some time and see whether you agree with me. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 11:13, May 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * It looks like another of our teenage boys to me. Thurstan (talk) 20:03, May 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * It also looks like User:Maboyce716 to me. Thurstan (talk) 20:06, May 8, 2018 (UTC)
 * Not sure about the former; see also Maryann Rose Ferrigno (1967) and my addition to the standard welcome at http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:24.38.17.242. Yes to the latter (he or she is the dominant contributor to the Movies Wiki but hasn't been welcomed!), similar deficient "person form" - (Created page with " ") or  (Created page with "     {{showfac...") - and same "failure" to respond to talk page. Contributions probably generally accurate, though, from the random checking I've done. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 05:23, May 9, 2018 (UTC)

Italian
I'm glad you're editing the new categories. When you've got a minute, please see Pauolomaldonato's talk page. You could ask him not to do the categories but he seems to be uninterested in his talk page. I'm creating the alternative template I suggested for him. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:01, May 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't think it is a good idea to have a parallel set of categories in Italian! That seems excessive to me. If I am looking for someone surnamed "Smith", do I have to look in the "surname Smith" category in every language we support to find him? Thurstan (talk) 02:58, May 12, 2018 (UTC)
 * You could be quite right. My recent work has been a little tentative, trying to get easy ways of linking the Italian-language surname articles to everything we would want them to. When my computer is fixed or replaced, I'll have a closer look. Meanwhile, you're most welcome to look at the new templates (which probably need a bit of refinement) and see whether you have a better idea for that linking. (If thingydonato persists, maybe a 24-hour block could make him attend to his talk page?) -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 06:34, May 13, 2018 (UTC)
 * I have partly reverted but I'm not sure how far to go. Please have a look at http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:This_Wikia_is_now_multilingual#Policy and give us your further thoughts. I have sent a similar message to rtol and afil. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 12:54, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

Copying from Wikipedia
WP now has a Ahnentafel. See its red link where I have just put it on Frances Ruth Burke Roche (1936-2004). We may want it on more than one page and should therefore probably adapt it - or use it unchanged if that will work. Please have a look at the original and see what our options are. -- Robin Patterson (Talk) 10:19, May 20, 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, the Wikipedia history says "starting a merged version of Template:Ahnentafel-compact4, Template:Ahnentafel-compact5, Template:Ahnentafel-compact6, still needs work", so we can probably just use our existing ones. As it is, with our /tree subpages, we need never put an Ahnentafel on anyone's main page! Thurstan (talk) 10:32, May 20, 2018 (UTC)

James Blofeld
On the recommendation of Dick Eastman (genealogist - http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/plusedition.html) I signed up to the site (Familypedia) a few days ago and entered my first person James Blofeld (1785-1844). I was going to enter more details and other persons as and when I got time.

I know this is a WIKI and people can add / alter things but I was very surprised to find that someone called Thurstan added that my ancestor came from the Land of Canaan. Apparently Canaan spanned the years 2000 through 1001 BC. I am happy to accept and perhaps discuss with others info that happened in my ancestors lifetime and afterwards plus other near relatives but think that this ancient fact/comment is not appropriate.

At first I thought that this addition was just SPAM and someone was playing the fool but I have now learned from Chen Shen Community Manager that you are one of the Administrators and it was you that added this comment. I would be very pleased to learn why you added the bit about my ancestors connection with the Land of Canaan.

Blofeld ons

09:57, July 18, 2018 (UTC)
 * You have been misinformed: the comment has been added automatically by the Wiki software. You claimed that James Blofeld's mother was Mary, who maps to Mary (mother of Jesus), who has been described as coming from the Land of Canaan. I suggest that you review the pagename conventions for this wiki, and note that all people entered (father, mother, spouse, children, etc) should include their vital dates. Otherwise you will find yourself claiming strange connections. Thurstan (talk) 10:52, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

Re James Blofeld. Thank you, I will edit Mary (and Thomas) to give some approx. dates

Blofeld ons (talk) 16:04, July 18, 2018 (UTC)

photo to be deleted
https://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_Chiacchio_hot_5.jpg

https://www.google.it/url?sa=i&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiyycvnoMTcAhXLkiwKHR7iDwsQjhx6BAgBEAM&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffamilypedia.wikia.com%2Fwiki%2FFile%3AMassimo_Chiacchio_(4).jpg&psig=AOvVaw08-RKswyLM71Ps74YWiu3K&ust=1532951482421417

Hi, can you delete these two images? Thank you. 13:56, July 29, 2018 (UTC)


 * My talk page is dealing with the same request. --- Robin Patterson (Talk) 01:56, July 30, 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I had been following. I note that
 * File:Massimo_Chiacchio_hot_5.jpg is a version of commons:File:Giuseppe Verdi by Giovanni Boldini.jpg
 * File:Massimo Chiacchio (4).jpg seems to have always been a plate of pasta.
 * the requester has just uploaded 60+ new verions of File:Massimo Chiacchio abbronzato.jpg, which seems to be variations on commons:File:Gérard Depardieu Cannes 2015 3.jpg.


 * Thurstan (talk) 03:19, July 30, 2018 (UTC)

Please, can you remove these photos, are they without the consent of a person I know? I uploaded photos of a friend of mine, he wants them to be removed because they appear on search engines. The photos are uploaded from my old account  Giocondo21 

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_Chiacchio_BMW.jpg

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_Chiacchio_Inverno.jpg

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_Chiacchio.jpg

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_chiacchio_3.jpg

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_Chiacchio_gatto.jpg

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_Chiacchio_hot_5.jpg

http://familypedia.wikia.com/wiki/File:Massimo_Chiacchio_style.jpg

User:Ciro Pierratra 04:59, August 6, 2018 (UTC)